Here’s a little story about math and language learning.
This past Saturday, I was reading a book to my almost-four-year old son. The book was about trains. Actually I think it was called Train. Anyway, he quickly got bored (for whatever reason on the page about commuter rail). Not knowing what else to do, I asked him some counting questions.
“Let’s say you have two apples,” I said. “Then I give you one more. How many do you have now?”
Three, he said.
“Now you have three apples. I give you one more. How many do you have now?”
Four, he said, yawning.
“Now you have four apples. I give you one more. How many do you have now?”
Eight, he shouted.
“Say you have five apples. I give you one more. How many now?”
Fourteen, he shouted louder.
This was when I started wondering, not for the first time, what exactly was going on in our kid’s head. He’s a pretty curious guy. Always playing with his own shadows. Always doing weird things when he walks. Loves jumping off of things. Speaks with increasing precision and sophistication in effortful, sludgy sentences.
My feeling was, I think he could figure this out.
I said to the boy, let’s count together. One, two, three, four, five.
Now I went back to apples: “You have four, and I give you one more. How many now?”
This time, he said: five.
I bumped up the quantities, each time reciting the number sequence together. He answered correctly up to ten. And this learning has lasted over the past few days. Now he doesn’t need anyone to prompt him with the sequence (though he still gets the teens wrong).
He seems to have made a connection and it seems to be thanks to his knowledge of the number sequence, one, two, three… a bit of memorized language that turns out to be at the very foundation of all mathematical thinking.
For over fifty years, but probably much longer, researchers have noted that students who struggle to read often also struggle with arithmetic. It was only more recently, in the last twenty years or so, that we’ve learned what’s going on more precisely.
To be absolutely clear—these two things don’t always go together! Plenty of kids can struggle with reading but not math. The other way around too. Besides, there are a lot of general cognitive issues that could impact both math and reading. Someone is going to say that I didn’t say this, but I’m saying it, alright? We’re cool?
OKAY. That said, there seems to be a distinctive thing that kids who have trouble in both areas are sometimes dealing with. And that is phonological processing, our ability to represent, remember, and retrieve the sounds of language. (Think: the thing phonics might help with.)
So, for instance, in a 2022 meta-anlysis the researchers found a persistent association between phonological processing skills and certain mathematical skills. “Early phonological processing skills are likely to promote math,” they conclude. And it’s not just word problems or things like that—there’s an association between these skills and pure number computation, e.g. 5 + 2.
Without getting completely in the weeds, phonological processing is typically measured in three different ways. These are then posited to reflect three distinct capabilities. One component is called RAN, which stands for rapid automatized naming. A task that assesses RAN is trying to name colors that have been randomly sequenced on a page. What we’re measuring, it’s thought, is a kid’s ability to easily retrieve words (stored as sounds) from memory.
Students who struggle to do this quickly have a nontrivial chance of struggling with computation. (See this 2017 meta-anlysis.)
Isn’t that fascinating? Why would aptitude at color-naming be associated with early computation ability?
But look back at the conversation I had with my son: it was a language-intensive situation. His phonological processing skills were extremely engaged. He had to remember and retrieve words that he has only a weak understanding of, like “seven.” He had to remember it in a number sequence (essentially a short nonsense poem). Then, in a bit or rewiring/learning, he realized that he can use that poem to advance one further, the way he already knew how to do with numbers below four.
There’s a lot more to all this but basically: if you have trouble pulling words, stored as sounds, from memory, it’s going to impact your ability to use the counting sequence to solve problems.
(Down the line it’ll also get in the way of retrieving and using memorized math facts.)
Obviously, this has implications for teachers and parents of young children who are having a hard time with counting or arithmetic. But it’s also worth dwelling on what this says about math itself.
Math—the discipline of adding, subtracting, multiplying, dividing, conjecturing, estimating, reasoning, solving—depends on learning about fifteen words by heart. At first they don’t have to make sense, but they do have to be in order. If you have trouble with this, it may make it hard to do any of those other things, at least at first. There is an arbitrary-ish poem at the start of mathematics.
And all this is also to say that there isn’t some single “math part of the brain.” Learning math is a dance between language, experience, and our natural-born number sense. These things are engaged together and at all times, and at all levels. It’s possible to see this in the way students and teachers talk about algebra, fractions, derivatives, but it’s maybe easiest to see it at the very start, when we’re just talking apples and numbers.
Very fun to read this after all of our chatting about this topic in the Science of Math group! I will share with my team!
Thought you might like this and related research links: https://ece.umd.edu/news/story/the-brain-makes-sense-of-math-and-language-in-different-ways
Yes, teen numbers are very opaque (plus you run out of fingers at ten), so it makes sense that your son hasn’t yet carried his new addition knowledge into the teens. In the other decades (twenTY, thirTY, fourtTY, etc) the place value is more clear in a sense of a set number of tens and clear directionality. FourTEEN has a sense of ten but is backwards in that the four part of it comes first, making kids want to write 41. And twelve has no sense of ten in the morphology at all, though the tw hints and its “two-ness.” Eleven loses all sense of ten or one more for kids and has to be memorized without any morphological clues. Without explicit instruction, kids with phonological difficulties are likely to also miss the morphological patterns in those more transparent numbers - another link to phonological difficulties affecting math learning!
Also, I think it’s worth quantifying the comment that “plenty of kids” who have reading difficulties don’t have math difficulties. Depending on the study, about 70% of kids with reading difficulties will also have math difficulties. Yet between the cultural acceptance of math difficulty being normal and the myth that dyslexia only affects reading, I consistently hear from parents that their child was diagnosed with dyslexia and schools would only address the reading difficulty, despite clear math difficulty, telling parents to “wait and see” with math. And as you noted, phonological difficulty gets in the way of some really crucial & foundational math learning, causing the “wait and see” approach to just leave those kids further behind. As an interventionist, I just wanted to advocate for that point to readers since I so persistently hear that schools think dyslexia only affects reading, but yet math difficulty its clearly associated with dyslexia for a majority of students. And math difficulty is actually a greater predictor of poverty, incarceration, and health difficulty than reading difficulty according to one study I saw from the UK.
Great connection! I don't have the research at my fingertips, but I think there may be a parallel foundational aspect for mathematical development of number counting using fingers (alongside the language you point to here)