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Hi, Alex, Curriculum Director of Math Academy here.

After some reflection, I decided to respond to this.

TLDR

* Math Academy is a work in progress (hence why we're still in beta).

* Do we avoid or skip the teaching of concepts? No, certainly not!

* Could we do more to ensure conceptual understandings are hitting home? Absolutely.

* Can anything be done to ensure that a larger proportion of 4th-grade students can benefit? For sure.

* Is Math Academy fundamentally broken and cannot be fixed? GTFOH!

Long Form

I cannot post as a single comment, so it must be done as a series of comments.

While the author raises a few reasonable points, it's nothing we're not already aware of. Also, it's self-evident that the author had no intention of properly engaging with the platform.

It's not my intention to go through the review line-by-line and comment on every point. However, some points about the author's perspective on education stood out for me.

> Good teachers don’t sit around and watch kids read. They ask probing questions. They ask for explanations. They build understanding.

Not quite. When a good one-on-one tutor introduces a new concept to a student, they might start with some (very) short motivation. Then, they'll introduce a worked example, as simple as possible to start, and carefully walk through the solution, invoking prerequisite ideas where necessary and using their knowledge to anticipate where the pain points in the solution process might be. They show them how to solve the problem and then get the student to demonstrate their understanding by solving similar problems.

Introducing a concept for the first time is usually not the time to ask "probing questions." It's way too early for that! The student only learned what the hell a quadratic equation was two minutes ago, and you're already probing them! Give them a chance to internalize some information first!

So, go through 1-2 worked examples and check that they understand by having them solve some similar problems. Once they've gotten the hang of that, slightly increase the complexity of the problem. Do that 2-3 times, and you'll come away with a student who's had a happy and satisfying learning experience!

Most students struggling with a new idea don't want to be probed for understanding every two seconds. If anything, too much probing too early could undermine their confidence entirely. Now, that's not to say students shouldn't be probed. But give them a chance to get familiar with the material first. Once they're happy, confident, and have reached a certain point in their understanding, *then* you can challenge them.

Unlike most users, I feel the author did not make a genuine effort to engage with the product. Quote:

> Given the choice, most people will skim over technical explanations... I was no different.

Actually, no. Most people genuinely interested in learning new material are willing to spend some time reading information about what they're trying to learn! (I'm assuming we're talking about more mature students now). Surely, it's not gotten to the point where we're discouraging reading to learn!

Granted, technical discussions can be difficult to wade through, at any level. I sympathize. But this is why we break a course down into hundreds of individual topics, which are themselves broken down into multiple stages. The cognitive load (i.e., the amount of new information that requires storing in working memory) at any one point during the learning experience is designed to be as low as possible.

The author raises a reasonable point: getting some 4th-graders to read text and learn from it is nigh impossible. This could be for a variety of reasons. We've never claimed that our 4th-grade course *in its current form* will work for every 4th-grade student, and admittedly, it's down to us to do more to make that dream a reality. But with all that said, our 4th-grade course currently has a 93% completion rate (meaning, 93% of students on this course mastered *every single topic*!), and 99% of lessons are passed within two attempts (coincidentally, 93% of lessons passed within the first attempt). So there's no doubt that *some* 4th-graders can read the material, learn from it, and consequently get tremendous value out of the product.

It's our job to widen the net to make the course as inclusive as possible. However, far from being an unfixable problem as the author suggests, technical solutions that are already in the works are possible, such as:

* In-task analysis (figuring out exactly what students are doing while using the platform and taking steps to intervene if they slack or goof off).

* In task-coaching, using the in-task analysis data (basically guiding the students on how to use the system correctly).

* For younger students who have difficulty reading text, videos and/or animations are always a possibility.

The in-task analysis and coaching are technically challenging. You'll need to figure out what the student is doing in real-time and respond accordingly, just like a teacher or tutor would. But these things are certainly not impossible. We're already on it!

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Ke Zhang's avatar

I wonder whether the need for this type of program (and Khan academy before it) is an indictment on our school systems ignoring skills training in mathematics. There are certain part of math that definitely requires memorization and practice of skills, but it's not everything. I like in the Beast Academy series there is a character named Sargent Rote who shows up whenever this type training is needed. But there is a reason Sargent Rote is not your main teacher, he only needs to show up once in a while.

In a world where students are never properly drilled in these skills, the lack of skills show up as the most obvious and looks like the only problem. As a result, we see programs like this showing up promising a miracle cure for math.

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